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A Protectionist Rant from Intel Legend Andy Grove

by Brett on July 20, 2010

Sometimes I naturally assume that most “startup minded” people are folks who lean fairly strongly towards the free market.  They typically are tolerant of government at best, and hostile towards it at worst (and I myself, I admit, lean towards the latter!)

So when my wife sent along this guest column Intel legend Andy Grove penned for Bloomberg, I was quite surprised to see his conclusion and take.  For starters, he argues that startups don’t create jobs – scaling does.  Fair enough on that one, I think.  I’ve been doing a startup for 3 years and haven’t yet pulled an actual dime out of the company yet, so my experience to date would concur!

Grove says the US employment problem is that the scaling takes place overseas…namely manufacturing, which largely takes place in Asia.  And that’s when he really gets on the rant:

The first task is to rebuild our industrial commons. We should develop a system of financial incentives: Levy an extra tax on the product of offshored labor. (If the result is a trade war, treat it like other wars — fight to win.) Keep that money separate. Deposit it in the coffers of what we might call the Scaling Bank of the U.S. and make these sums available to companies that will scale their American operations. Such a system would be a daily reminder that while pursuing our company goals, all of us in business have a responsibility to maintain the industrial base on which we depend and the society whose adaptability — and stability — we may have taken for granted.

I fled Hungary as a young man in 1956 to come to the U.S. Growing up in the Soviet bloc, I witnessed first-hand the perils of both government overreach and a stratified population. Most Americans probably aren’t aware that there was a time in this country when tanks and cavalry were massed on Pennsylvania Avenue to chase away the unemployed. It was 1932; thousands of jobless veterans were demonstrating outside the White House. Soldiers with fixed bayonets and live ammunition moved in on them, and herded them away from the White House. In America! Unemployment is corrosive. If what I’m suggesting sounds protectionist, so be it.

You can read Grove’s entire Bloomberg piece here.

As a pure free market guy, I have a hard time EVER being in favor of protectionism.  I think ultimately everyone loses.

But then again, I’m not exactly Andy Grove.  So what do you think?  Do you agree with Grove?  Or has he been spoiled from the fact that his splendid career took place during a Golden Age in American history?

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  • Carson Gross

    I can see Andy’s point. While I certainly regard myself as a free market guy, the asian mercantilist approach has created a huge, long lived distortion in global markets. While I do believe there has been a net increase in well-being thanks to free trade with China, I can’t tell if the benefits that the U.S. accrued are separable from the massive increase in household leverage here, and I’m pretty sure that that leverage is going to cause a world of pain for us.

    Cheers,
    Carson

  • Brett

    Thanks Carson. It seems like Grove is not a believer in the “we think, they sweat” economic maxim that I believe Andy Kessler coined a few years back.

    Definitely tough to distinguish between the free trade benefits and the leverage accrued during our massive debt bender…perhaps our bender was partially enabled by the Chinese cranking out cheap crap for us to buy. In any case, agree that the end result is PAIN.

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  • Paul S

    I worked in choosing manufacturing locations through the 80’s for a couple of Fortune 500 firms, one of which was Intel. Throughout the ’80’s most of the Fortune 500 moved manufacturing offshore (including Intel). In our in-depth financial analysis we consistently recommended these decisions, and the overwhelming driver was taxation. Corporations could realize earnings tax free in Singapore, Puerto Rico, Ireland, and elsewhere . . . labor, shipping costs, and other cost elements weren’t the deciding factor . . . taxes were.

  • Brett

    Thanks Paul for the comment and insight into the role that taxes play in these locations being chosen. I’d imagine the US still does not compare favorably on this front!

  • Paul S

    The carrot that lured much of the “offshoring” was a temporary tax holiday. As mentioned above, Ireland, Peurto Rico, Singapore, and many other countries offered a 10 year tax-free offer . . . the offer would eventually expire, and the corporations would often shift their manufacturing (and subsequent profit recognition) onto another location.

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